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Writer Kaile Shilling joins us to talk about expanding community with those who are often intentionally excluded, evolving personal perception and perspective, and the incredible power of sauna.

[Light warning for loud excitement (!!!) over fluffy preteen chickens!]

SAD Mag and SADCAST will be at Word Vancouver on September 20th, come check out our collage workshop and a live episode recording 🥳 

Local music feature: “Clarity” by Francis Arevalo

Theme and interstitial music: “⁠Sad Femme Club⁠” by ⁠⁠Kimmortal

Kaile's photo is by Rachel Lando

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Know someone we should talk to, or have music we can feature? Reach out to kristi@sadmag.ca

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