We delve into the research-based side of talent development with Dr. Kenneth Kiewra, an educational psychology professor at the University of Nebraska-Lincoln who is an expert in talent development. We learn about talent development in children and adults, along with Ken's other fascinating research on learning in and teaching of children, young people, scholars, and older adults. We are astounded to learn of the many parallels between Ken's research-based findings and Adam Gopnik's experiential themes in our January book, The Real Work.