Updated version of the conversation as father and son (Paul McDonald squared) discuss the themes of forgiveness and validation in the 2011 movie Warrior starring Nick Nolte, Tom Hardy, and Joel Edgerton.
Southerly Change performed by Zane Dickinson, used under license from Shutterstock
Audio quotes performed by Tim Willard, Britt Mooney, and Paul McDonald from Abolition of Man (CS Lewis), Epic (John Eldredge), and Song of Albion (Stephen Lawhead)