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In this episode, Z & Lee are holdin space for all the messy, meaningful convos that keep showing up in real life πŸ’­βœ¨

We kick things off with some Spice Girls nostalgia 🧑 and summer catch-ups β˜€οΈπŸ¦, then dive into a bigger convo around NFL star Caleb Williams and why his personal style is triggering some very loud opinions πŸ˜¬πŸ‘•πŸ’….

We unpack the fragility of masculinity, why emotional intelligence still feels taboo for men πŸ§ πŸ’”, and how therapy changes the game. Also on the table: the oh-so-fun challenge of meeting your partner’s conservative parents for the first time 😬🎭 - and what it really means to bridge political gaps in love πŸ’Œ vs. values 🌍.

🧩 Chapters:
00:00 – Spice Girls & Summer Adventures πŸ‘―β€β™€οΈπŸŒ΄
06:36 – Holdin Space for Caleb Williams πŸˆπŸ‘—
13:25 – Men, Emotions & Relationship Realness πŸ§ πŸ’ž
21:21 – Politics, Parents & Partnership πŸŽ­πŸ—³οΈπŸ’¬