In this episode, Z & Lee are holdin space for all the messy, meaningful convos that keep showing up in real life πβ¨
We kick things off with some Spice Girls nostalgia π§‘ and summer catch-ups βοΈπ¦, then dive into a bigger convo around NFL star Caleb Williams and why his personal style is triggering some very loud opinions π¬ππ .
We unpack the fragility of masculinity, why emotional intelligence still feels taboo for men π§ π, and how therapy changes the game. Also on the table: the oh-so-fun challenge of meeting your partnerβs conservative parents for the first time π¬π - and what it really means to bridge political gaps in love π vs. values π.
π§© Chapters:
00:00 β Spice Girls & Summer Adventures π―ββοΈπ΄
06:36 β Holdin Space for Caleb Williams ππ
13:25 β Men, Emotions & Relationship Realness π§ π
21:21 β Politics, Parents & Partnership ππ³οΈπ¬