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In this episode, the hosts of Close The Curtain are joined by a special guest: Katherine Shorter! She is a pastoral care counselor, author, speaker and teacher whose passion is women's ministry. Join us as we "wine poetic" about the auspicious Twosday and our upcoming projects; the best books to read in 2022; Ye and his fragility; pizza as a metaphor for "sexual consent"; opting out of Black History Month; and overcoming generational curses while pursuing generational wealth. Pull up a seat, your favorite drink, and let's get into it!