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Guest host Brynn Fuller-Becker is joined by Andrew C Revkin of the Sustain What webcast and revkin.substack.com newsletter. Andy discusses his 41 year career as a journalist covering environmental stories, including climate change. In that period he has lived the news media’s transformation from a few institutional giants to numerous smaller outlets. Andy articulates his current belief that effecting societal change requires facilitating relationships between scientific expertise and communities at risk.