In this episode, we talk about the border between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated, and how the discourse can become more productive. Theresa takes you to Cologne during carnival season, a time that is especially affected by the pandemic. The Italian journalist and fact checker Juanne Pili talks about the hindering role of conspiracy "gurus" in the quest of getting to a higher vaccination rate. His outlook is rather mild. Please, get vaccinated and stay safe. If you want to hear more of us in the future, you can support this podcast financially with just a few euros on buymeacoffe.com/obviouspod.
