Chris Carr is a film director, producer and writer and maybe a secret spy. His film The Dry Cleaner is the main topic of this episode. The amount of research you have to make in order to make a spy film which would not only be believable but also accurate and factual is a lot of work but for Chris, it's a piece of cake as he's incredibly passionate about everything spy-related. We're also talking about using different locations in London for filming and how to visualise, film and edit a sequence where someone is being followed. If you want to dig deeper into spy world, you can check out Chris's podcast Secrets and Spies.
