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This episode with Ronald Meijers is a real goldmine. Ronald is a Partner at Deloitte and Leads the Transformation, Leadership & Governance as well as the Financial Services verticals. We could have spent hours discussing work, leadership and organizations with him. 

Lisa connected with Ronald during the Deloitte BOLD Leaders program and was delighted to find genuinely refreshing views inside a large management consultancy, and you'll see why during this episode. 

If you've ever wondered what purpose has to do with business, how leadership and authority differ, or why the group of people who must lead shifts toward the future are the least likely to be good at it and why scalable efficiency is being replaced with scalable learning THIS is the episode to listen to. 

*Side note: anchor is experiencing technical difficulties, alternative recording method was used which resulted in a few sound impurities. Happily the golden content makes it more that worthwhile to give this a listen!