Mel and Michael discuss which kind of lost people Christ has compassion for and which kind of Christians extend that compassion. How do we prevent the abuse of compassion? Next they talk about the wisdom withholding spiritual leadership from those who aren't ready for it. How can you tell when a person is spiritually mature? Are some people just not meant to be leaders? The conversation turns to the differences between formally educated seminarians and ministers who are self-taught. Which does Mel prefer? Is there a correlation between the type of education you receive and the chances of a moral failure?