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One of my favorite types of episodes is when my guest has a really thoughtful, deliberate point of view and we can walk down the thread to try and understand it at a very deep, meaningful level. This was that type of episode. My guest, Dr. Capellan started with her most important value being "living up to her full potential." So we started at the beginning; how do you know what your full potential is and what you are supposed to be living up to? From there we worked through it exploring things like the intuitive voice that tries to guide us, the role our subconscious plays, limiting beliefs (the good and bad of them), and understanding if we are predestined to achieve certain things.

As a way of background, Dr. Capellan is the Founder and Director of Transformational Coaching Certifications and is an internationally recognized and award-winning educator, coach and TEDx speaker. She is a former lecturer at the University of Miami, Herbert Business School, a leadership and Diversity, Equity & Inclusion speaker and trainer, and a certified executive coach. She is currently writing a book, Leadership is a Responsibility, about her career journey experience as a Black Hispanic woman in Academia, the stories of Black women in the workplace, and the need of responsible leaders to create a more equitable society.

It was interesting to learn more about her background as well and some of the experiences that led her to this work. We even leaned in a bit and spoke about racism and discrimination to understand why that person might think those beliefs are them actually living up to their full potential. One of the most useful and interesting parts of the discussion was when Dr. Capellan shared her "best version of yourself" exercise. We've probably heard of some form of this before (kind of gets to the "What would Jesus do?" concept) but, as I always try to do on this show, we pressure tested it to understand how it really works, what challenges it might have, and how it worked for Dr. Capellan personally.