Gemma and Phoebe are joined by @iamageniuspod host Emma Burke to discuss seasons 1-4 of The Real Housewives of New Jersey through the lens of Charles Kipps' Cop Without a Badge, the revelatory biography of Danielle Staub's ex-fiance, Kevin Maher. They touch on: the internal logic of the Family, paranoid delusion, and how to pronounce the word "ingredientses."
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