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This is Episode 60 of the SUPPAUL Podcast.

Russian whitewater SUP athlete Pavel Kochanov joins host Paul Clark (SUPPAUL) for a powerful cross-cultural conversation—translated live by paddling friend Vera Fierce. They discuss Pavel’s viral freestyle videos, overcoming gear shortages in Russia, and how rivers can unite people across borders.

From family sacrifices to coaching philosophies and international paddle dreams, this episode is about more than whitewater—it's about connection, courage, and creativity.

In this episode, host Paul Clark (SUPPAUL) connects with Russian whitewater SUP phenom Pavel Kochanov, whose viral videos have reshaped perceptions of stand-up paddling. With translation support from paddling friend Vera Fierce, the trio dives into a wide-ranging conversation on the global growth of whitewater SUP, creative expression on the water, and the power of rivers to unite people across geopolitical divides.

From his home near Saint Petersburg, Pavel shares how he first discovered Paul’s content on Instagram and how it inspired him to take his flatwater SUP to the rapids. Now known for his dynamic freestyle paddling and high-stoke energy, Pavel reflects on his journey, the challenge of accessing quality gear in Russia, and the sacrifices he and his family have made to pursue his passion.

Paul and Pavel discuss everything from gear shortages and cultural perceptions to the idea of river sports as diplomacy, bridging East and West through shared flow. We also hear about Pavel’s philosophy on coaching—where overcoming the fear of falling is more important than any technical detail—and how his wife plays the role of coach, videographer, and now champion paddler in her own right.

Whether you paddle in the States or in Russia, this conversation will remind you that whitewater connects us all.

Highlights Include:

  • Pavel’s entry into whitewater SUP and his freestyle evolution
    The surprising global hotspots for SUP paddling (States, Chile, Europe, Japan)


    Getting SUP gear in Russia

  • Family support and sacrifices behind the scenes
    Coaching insights: why fear—not stance—is the biggest obstacle for beginners
    Whitewater SUP as a tool for diplomacy and human connection
    Pavel’s symbolic “wish” made between two Pauls: for the sport to grow and bring people together.

    Notable Quotes

    “I stand up and swim down.” – Paul “My wife is my coach. She pushes me into the cold water.” – Pavel “The biggest obstacle is fear of falling.” – Pavel “Just tell me when you're arriving—I’ll pick you up at the airport.” – Pavel

    Location Notes

    Special Thanks To Vera Fierce for making this international conversation possible through generous translation, and to all who believe in building bridges—one paddle stroke at a time.

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    Pavel @kochanov_pVera @vera_lapochka