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What happens when a young black atheist and an old white Christian connect for a quick chat? An incredibly deep and meaningful conversation happens. 

This week my friend Jonah Elam joins me for a quick chat & we get into some really deep stuff. 

I met Jonah several years back as he was and still is great friends with my son. Since then, I was able to help him get on stage for the first time and even more importantly, I've been able to watch him grow into an incredible young man.