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In Episode #255, Osi sits down with renowned epidemiologist Michael Osterholm to talk about why it’s so important to start preparing now for the next pandemic. How did politicians and the scientific community fall short during COVID 19, and what lessons do we need to take with us moving forward? When might the next pandemic happen? Osi and Michael dig into these questions and more.

Link to The Big One - https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph/the-big-one/9780316258340/

Michael Thomas Osterholm is an American epidemiologist, Regents Professor at the University of Minnesota School of Public Health, and director of the University’s Center for Infectious Disease Research and Policy. He is the author of several books, including his latest, The Big One: How We Must Prepare for Future Deadly Pandemics (2025).