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Mia Lo Russo and Axel-Nathaniel Rose interview Dr. John Attridge of the School of Arts and Media. They discuss how he came to research trust, how coming of age narratives are linked to capitalism, Bo Burnham, reading children's books as a teacher of English, and - of course, the existential question of ducks and horses.

Dr. Attridge referred to Ducks, Newburyport by Lucy Ellman (2019, published by Galley Beggar Press), Maurice Blanchot's 'The Gaze of Orpheus' (http://www.columbia.edu/itc/visualarts/r4100/pov.html#blanchot), and Franco Moretti's The Way of the World: the Bildungsroman in European Culture (1987, published by Verso).