In this episode, Jonathan interviews former ASU Sun Devil Gary Chambers. Gary played at ASU for 4 years and then went onto the NFL. Jonathan and Gary discuss the new NIL (Name, Image and Likeness) laws that have recently gone into effect. These new laws allow student-athletes profit off of their name, image and likeness. On paper it sounds like a great thing for student-athletes, however, their are a lot of challenges ahead and the exploitation that has occurred in college sports may have just shifted to big business. Listen to hear more.