I am joined with my friend, Joe Jackowski, and this conversation took place after about four hours of conversation, unpacking everything that has happened in the wake of George Floyd's murder.
This is the first time that we can look at and take stock of the events of the protests, riots, and the surrounding reactions, in the world.
This was not to try and pose any solutions, but realistically this conversation was sense-making for myself and Joe. We do our best to try and layout the land of the current situation, which in turn looking at the extremes of this situation and asking. What if; how bad could this get?
And now roughly a week later, do I think it's getting worse? No. I don't think it's getting worse. So I'm hopeful in that sense. But I do believe that the broader philosophical discussions about the direction of this country are speaking between order and chaos.
This was our honest attempt at the layout of the reactions on both sides.
As I said at the end of this conversation is everything we say, and everything I've said, is all about providing a viewpoint that is the most nuanced. And to see this country go in a better direction. Then where it has, obviously some things need to change, and those will change. The big question is, how do we go about changing those things? How we figure this thing out.
There will be one other conversation where myself, Joe, and Jordan, will have our first conversation together.
And that one I think is even better than this one. So stay tuned for that one. It will be the next episode to be released. But until then, please enjoy this conversation with Joe Jackowski.
Show Notes:
(00:04:34) Emotion is a compass
(00:07:14) Dismissal of Habeas Corpus
(00:12:33) Orderly Aspect
(00:14:50) Territory Mapping
(00:17:19) Risk of too much information
(00:19:46) Finding the middle ground
(00:21:35) Orderliness
(00:22:34) Ghost in the Shell
(00:25:13) Overspecialization
(00:27:36) The Funnel of Information
(00:29:31) Hilter and Orderliness taken too Far
(00:32:09)Tying back into Habeas Corpus
(00:33:27) Iceland's reaction to COVID-19
(00:35:59) The left side is a bit tricky
(00:40:03) A case for right-wing to be upset at what happened to George Floyd
(00:45:01) The Left going too far
(00:46:35) Nihilism
(00:49:19) Where is the line on the left and Evergreen
(00:57:57) Coming back together
(00:58:57) What steps can we take now?
(01:03:21) Multivariate problem
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