At a time in human history where it seems nothing is needed more than for people who are different from each other to find ways of forming deeper fellowship and understanding, we also seem to be going in the opposite direction, focusing on what we perceive makes us different and divides rather than what we share in common that can unite. Given the cultural, political and emotional climate we find ourselves in, how do we reverse that trend? Is the biggest change in forming deeper fellowship that brings greater understanding and empathy likely to come from the top-down, from the ground-up or is it a both/and dynamic?
Join us in this episode as Art interviews best friend and ennea-type 3, Tim Clay, and they recall meeting, building an unexpectedly deep relationship, the role enneagram and 12 Step work has played and is playing in their growing consciousness, systemic racism, as well as two old-timers just talking some smack and ancient basketball trivia!