In this episode of The Feminine Rebellion, I join host Natty Frasca to discuss the realities of open relationships. As a certified sex and relationship coach, I share my personal journey—from experiencing sexual dissatisfaction to embracing ethical non-monogamy with my partner, Scott.
Together, Natty and I explore different relationship styles, address common misconceptions, and highlight the importance of communication, consent, and self-discovery. Our conversation encourages listeners to question societal norms, honor their desires, and approach relationships with curiosity, openness, and respect. I also offer practical advice for anyone considering or navigating open relationships.
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Timestamps by PodSqueezeDisclaimer and Introduction (00:00:00)
Host gives a content warning and introduces the episode’s focus on open relationships and guest Jennifer Callow.
Jennifer’s Backstory: Awakening and Therapy (00:02:56)
Jennifer shares her limited sexual experiences, therapy journey, and decision to propose an open relationship.
The Turning Point: Therapy Session and Decision (00:05:04)
Jennifer describes the pivotal therapy session and the ultimatum that led to opening her marriage.
Sexual Exploration and Inspiration (00:06:19)
Jennifer discusses influences like “Sex, Love & Goop,” and her initial solo exploration of sexuality.
Discovering New Sexual Possibilities (00:08:24)
Jennifer recounts her first experiences outside marriage and the contrast with her previous sex life.
Defining Open Relationships and Types (00:10:10)
Jennifer explains what open relationships are, including swinging, polyamory, and hybrid dynamics.
Jennifer and Scott’s Unique Dynamic (00:13:01)
Jennifer details her and Scott’s polyamorous relationship, dating women together, and their specific boundaries.
Navigating Jealousy and Relationship Rules (00:15:33)
Discussion on jealousy, emotional responses, and why they only date together to strengthen their bond.
Evolution of Their Open Relationship (00:17:42)
Jennifer describes the trial-and-error process of finding the right dynamic, including dating couples and single women.
Being Public vs. Private About ENM (00:22:58)
Jennifer talks about being open publicly, how friends and family react, and the importance of personal choice in disclosure.
Common Mistakes When Opening Up (00:26:23)
Jennifer outlines mistakes couples make, like abrupt conversations, and emphasizes education and gradual exploration.
Stigma and High-Achieving Women in ENM (00:30:07)
Discussion on the stigma of polyamory, and how many successful women are exploring open relationships.
Exploring Fetishes and Desires (00:32:41)
Jennifer introduces FetLife, discusses discovering new desires, and how different partners fulfill different needs.
Permission to Play and Mainstreaming Kink (00:36:50)
Conversation about the importance of play, mainstream depictions of kink, and the empowerment of sexual exploration.
Resources and Erotica for Exploration (00:40:39)
Jennifer recommends women-focused porn, audio erotica, and smut literature as safe ways to explore desires.
Final Thoughts: Curiosity and Permission (00:42:48)
Jennifer encourages curiosity, slow exploration, and permission to discover what works for each individual or couple.