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In this episode, Simon is joined by Luke Glanville and Mark Glanville to discuss their recent book Refuge Reimagined: Biblical Kinship in Global Politics (IVP Academic, 2021). The episode ranges over the concept of kinship in the Old and New Testaments, the biblical imperative to welcome the stranger, Christian realism in international relations, and the challenge for Christians and nations to welcome refugees. It was a fascinating discussion, so tune in.