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This was a highly enjoyable conversation with Kevin Toonen. Kev is recognised as one of the best in his field of strength and conditioning, and also happens to be a thoroughly decent human. Having been an elite soldier, to redeveloping and delivering the training for Australia’s elite special forces, including the physical, mental and emotional tools to deliver in the extremes of military theatre. Now he has taken that knowledge to deliver a high performance program at the Sydney Roosters NRL team. Along with being a founder and programmer for the 98 training app, which allows the person on the street to utilise this knowledge and, coupled with hard work, can help develop both performance and resilience.