In this episode James, Chris and Joe are joined by guest Josh Murray to talk all things, Batman. Josh bravely admits that his dislike for the Dark Knight that main comes from how movies and fandom have taken the man out of Batman and turned him into unbeatable godlike being. However, Josh was open to and eager to have a more nuanced conversation about the character from his comic book roots and about Batman’s proper place in the DC/ superhero/ pop culture universe.
00:00 James introduces the show about Batman and guest Josh Murray, but we start the conversation talking about Swamp Thing, then we talk about Daredevil.
9:35 We start the talk about Batman, with Josh giving his thoughts on the character and how fandom and the movies portray an over powered/ never wrong version of the character.
17:00 We discuss some of the points that Josh brings up, addressing stories where Batman is wrong in what he is doing, Chris also talks about the stories where writers remember that Batman is a human and how often writers over power heroes to fit the needs to the story.
26:00 Chris talks about the interaction of Batman and Superman in the animated series, James’s talk about how Batman can shut of being human to get the job done, we talk about how Batman’s actions are determined by his principles.
33:00 We talk about The Dark Knight Returns, we also discuss why everyone in the DC Universe is so ready to follow Batman, we also talk about characters that team up with Batman, some Punisher talk, and even some talk about the character Nomad, but then we bring it back to Kingdom Come and Batman’s role in the series.
47:00 We talk about the worse thing about Batman fandom can be the fans, we talk about how everyone has their own version of Batman.
1:00:00 Chris talks about the value of the Bat family, we get into Batman: The Animated Series some more, we talk so more about Daredevil and about how Josh enjoyed having a nuanced discussion about Batman.
19:50 Joe asks Josh about his thoughts on Spider-man and Superman, and gives Josh some recommendations for reading Superman.
