In this episode, Shomari and Paul are privileged to sit down with James Whitfield and Paul Liwali, two pillars of the local civil rights movement. James and Paul have spent decades working to build greater systems and structures of equality and equity both locally, nationally, and internationally. In this far-reaching conversation we discuss the crucial role values-based, principled leadership plays in working for justice as well as the work ahead to ensure we establish more beloved communities into the future. As always, huge thanks to Brad Conger for working the sound board throughout the conversation.
