In this conversation, the hosts discuss the recent news from Comic-Con, including the return of Robert Downey Jr. as Doom in the upcoming Fantastic Four film. They express mixed feelings about this decision, noting that while RDJ is a talented actor, it feels desperate and lazy to bring back an iconic character instead of developing new ones. They also criticize Marvel for relying on nostalgia and not taking risks with new characters. The hosts highlight the importance of character development and storytelling in the success of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. The conversation revolves around the movie Deadpool Wolverine and the overall state of the Marvel franchise. The hosts discuss their disappointment with the lack of impact and consequence in the movie, as well as their skepticism about the future of the Marvel Cinematic Universe. They touch on the importance of Blade in paving the way for superhero movies and express their admiration for Hugh Jackman's portrayal of Wolverine. The hosts also mention the humor and entertaining aspects of the film, but ultimately feel that it doesn't add anything significant to the franchise. In this part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the movie 'No Way Out' and Kevin Costner's career. They also review a documentary about Lou Pearlman, the mastermind behind boy bands like Backstreet Boys and *NSYNC. They then transition to discussing the latest episode of 'House of the Dragon', noting the setup for the final episode and the significance of lineage and dragon-riding. The hosts also touch on the themes of racism and classism in the show. Overall, they express mixed feelings about the episode and speculate on what the final episode will bring. In this final part of the conversation, the hosts discuss the events of the show House of Drag-On's and share their thoughts on the characters and plot developments. They also briefly touch on the album Faith of a Mustard Seed by Mustard. The hosts express their opinions on the production and the artists' performances on the album. They speculate on the future of the show and the potential for a third season. The conversation concludes with a discussion about the importance of good production and the role of producers in shaping the final product.
