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Daniel: So Israel, do you have any siblings?

Israel: Yes, I have 3 half brothers and one step sister.

Daniel: Yeah, it's a big, big family

Israel: Yeah pretty big.

Daniel: Yeah... I only have half siblings, I have two half sisters and one half brother. It's also kind of a big family. Are you the youngest, the oldest or in the middle?

Israel: I’m actually the oldest.

Daniel: Oldest? Oh!

Israel: By 4 years… no, I’m 7 years older than my middle brother. The youngest ones, I am… 12 years older than, or something like this.

Daniel: It’s a little similar to... with me, I am the youngest and we have a… a difference of 6 years, and from me to my oldest brother is 11 years of difference. How is being the older brother in the family?

Israel: Well, you’re like the test subject of your family right, that's how you're treated kind of... and it's very different than the youngest, where they're always the baby of the family.

Daniel: Yes... sometimes it's a little annoying, sometimes it's a little good, especially when you are younger, because you... I used to fight with my siblings a lot so... yeah, it’s another reason to fight over, just kid stuff.

Israel: Yeah. Have you traveled with your siblings at all?

Daniel: I have, but I don't have a lot of contact with one of my sisters. I grew up with only 2 of them basically. And we used to travel in family a lot, now not so much, because everyone's growing up, starting to work, study, and move away to different states, so it's a little harder, but yes... our last trip was to Tiradentes actually, a few years ago, in Minas. What about you? Do you like family travels?

Israel: Yeah, it’s kind of a... when my mom still lived in Brazil it was kind of our tradition. Every year around Christmas time we would go to a different place so… we've gone to...

Daniel: Sounds awesome!

Israel: Yes! It's pretty... pretty nice, pretty nice. We've gone to the north of Brazil, to Ceará, we’ve gone to Santa Catarina, and Paraná, lots of different places.

Daniel: Traveled all around the country.

Israel: Traveling all around the country, yeah, lots of nice beaches here.

Daniel: Yes.