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The field of sustainable finance has grown immensely in the past few years. But how can the financial sector contribute systematically to a better future? And why is it essential to not only think outside the box but to throw the box away when it comes to rethinking the system? Prof. Laura Marie Edinger-Schons discussed these questions with Jan Köpper, Head of Impact Transparency and Sustainability at GLS Bank. Jan stresses the importance to prioritize planetary boundaries and the social impact when launching a new business project. Furthermore, Jan explains why GLS Bank focuses on impact transparency, talking and questioning the impact, rather than only measuring impact. Moreover, Laura and Jan discuss the chances and problems of the EU Taxonomy.