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Watch this episode on YouTube: https://youtu.be/j_ArBxK8Gfk


Pamela Metzger, Director of the Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center at SMU, shares her transformative journey as a dedicated public defender who navigated the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, advocating for thousands of detainees in New Orleans. Discover how this life-changing experience led to systemic reforms in criminal justice, focusing on the right to counsel and prosecutorial practices. Learn about the innovative approaches being implemented to ensure justice and empathy in the legal system.


Chapters:

0:00 - Clip

0:56 - Intro

1:32 - What Motivates You?

4:50 - Law School

6:54 - Upbringing

12:14 - Women's Resources

17:24 - Steps After Law School

20:33 - Running University Clinics

22:25 - Katrina

37:20 - When You Were Recruited

42:47 - AI

52:02 - Randomized Control

58:01 - Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center

59:37 - To Those Who Think Everyone in CJ System is Bad

1:06:44 - Reaching Across the Aisle

1:12:42 - Passions Outside of Criminal Justice

1:16:43 - Most Grateful for

1:18:53 - Snap Your Fingers

1:20:37 - How to Support


Pamela Metzger:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/pamela-metzger-07b90715a/


Deason Criminal Justice Reform Center:

https://www.linkedin.com/company/deasoncenter/

https://www.smu.edu/law/centers-and-initiatives/deason-center

https://www.instagram.com/smulawdeason/


Host: Jeffrey M. Zucker

Producer: Kait Grey

Editor: Nick Case


Recording date: 1/30/25