In this episode, we sit down with Aisling Bondy the President of the Canadian Association for Refugee Lawyers (CARL) to unpack one of the most pressing and controversial policy proposals on the table: Bill C-2. Though not yet passed, this bill threatens to reshape Canada’s refugee system by closing vital pathways to safety for claimants. Drawing comparisons to restrictive U.S. immigration policies, our guest explores the potential implications of Bill C-2, what it signals for Canada’s future, and why legal experts and advocates are raising the alarm.