On this episode, Patricia and Jason welcome Calen Otto author of The Art of Unruly Travel on a Budget: A Guide to Traveling the USA on a Small Budget as Ethically & Creatively as Possible. Calen discusses tips for authors who are unsure of what the next steps are to publishing. They give great tips and stories of their adventures and how the idea of writing came to mind. Follow Calen's journey @unruly_traveller on Instagram. Tune in every Sunday at 5 pm CST for a new episode.
