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This conversation was recorded on 11th October 2021 as a part of the exhibition Owed to a certain Emptiness: Infra-structuring the Conflictorium between Shaun Leonardo and Avni Sethi held at the Aronson Galleries at The New School hosted by the Vera List Center of Art and Politics in New York.

Shaun Leonardo’s performance practice, anchored by his work in Assembly—a diversion program for court-involved youth at the Brooklyn-based, arts nonprofit Recess—is participatory and invested in a process of embodiment. Leonardo is a Brooklyn-based artist from Queens, New York City. His work has been featured at The Guggenheim Museum, the High Line, and New Museum, and recently profiled in the New York Times and CNN. His solo exhibition, The Breath of Empty Space, was recently presented at MICA, MASS MoCA and The Bronx Museum. And his first major public art commission, Between Four Freedoms, recently premiered at Four Freedoms Park Conservancy.

Leonardo recently joined Recess as Co-Director, helping guide the organization's continuous evolution as an engine of social change. 

Shaun Leonardo Selected Reading:  Dossier # 3 Love 

To know more about the exhibition visit - https://veralistcenter.org/exhibitions/owed-to-a-certain-emptiness/

To know more about Conflictorium visit - https://www.conflictorium.org/