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In episode 17, the “Our Voice” podcast welcomes Brandon Sturdivant – Co-Director of the Mass Liberation Project. The Mass Liberation Project was launched in 2019 to bolster the growing movement to end mass incarceration and abolish the criminal legal system as we know it. But what does modern-day abolition look like, and is it even possible? Co-Director Sturdivant and the show's hosts have a frank discussion on the topic and a robust conversation about the need for healing among those who have perpetuated crime and those who have been victims of crime.