In this episode the team (Sam, Tor and Ash) discuss 2x16 "The Long Goodbye." Tune in as we talk about John being allergic to feelings, Torri's award deserving acting, and the many different ways this episode could have been made (better).
TIMESTAMPS:
00:00 Hello and welcome
01:47 everyone's initial thoughts on the episode
03:51 we love the cold opening and discuss TV in the stargate universe (earth is just weird)
08:07 we never got the whole team going to Earth :( so we make up a quick thing ourselves to compensate
10:30 Caldwell is back! with continuity!
16:22 the imprinting scenes and John's allergicness to feelings
23:17 the John/Elizabeth dynamic that this episode creates
28:56 what exactly is Phoebus' and Thalan's deal? and is this episode too serious? The what ifs of it all
36:59 Rodney shooting at John: funny or not? we have mixed feelings
42:11 Torri's acting in this ep is everything, actually. Sad that it wasn't as Elizabeth, tho.
54:50 why do the men (in particular john) get all the emotional impactful scenes? and why are they setting up this weird love triangle (love corner?) between elizabeth-john-teyla?
01:01:43 When was the last time Teyla and Elizabeth interacted? Spoiler alert: it's been a while
01:03:15 how we would have incorporated John's and Elizabeth's perspective into the episode
01:10:53 we're not happy with Caldwell is treating everyone here
01:15:40 we're team rodney but also could rodney handle command of Atlantis & all the ways SGA could have handled command of Atlantis if Elizabeth had to go the way she did
01:29:12 Teylabeth crumbs!
01:33:09 let's talk about the continuously terrible treatment of Teyla's character (and women in general)
01:52:12 Hey Lorne! Hey Carson!
01:54:28 Poor Ronon :( he's way too trusting
01:56:22 Bechdel Test and Behind the scenes
02:06:30 Fic corner!
02:12:01 Ratings and good byes!
FIC REC CORNER
Roadside Attractions by auburn: https://archiveofourown.org/works/71583
844,739 Ways to Eat a Hamburger by Minervacat: http://minervacat.stormwerks.net/gates/sga/hamburger.html
The Difference Engine by copperbadge: https://archiveofourown.org/works/568453/chapters/1017585
SHOW NOTES
Miller's Crossing Deleted Scene: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ETU2OF0aGg
SGU Cast interview (the part Sam talked about is in Part 3): https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PL40mFr6JB3qZnOmXsJtkr1Jn4wG7-_CvU&feature=shared
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