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Throw another cousin into the mix, it’s season four episode six. I realised during editing that I didn't ask Jo whether the title of Anti-Virus Software actually worked for this week's poem. Feel free to let me know what you think...

Thanks to Jo for a great chat and for sharing a story that nearly didn’t get told. Get in touch if you’d like to share your stories. Maybe you’ve met a fairly famous person and failed to recognise them? Or maybe you know what the big picture message of Anti-Virus Software is?

Feel free to check out my Instagram page (@philandhiscapsicum) to vote for the best pun of the episode and to have a go at finishing my couplet with an alternative line.

Thanks to Sam for the sumptuous art work and to Tom Crabb for the terrific theme music for this season. You can check out EP1 by Lemur Llama Lizard, an intercontinental side project Tom and I embarked on a while back.