"I feel really hopeful for the younger generation of entrepreneurs coming through. They'll be they'll put purpose over profit, because that that has to be the new profit. That's where the joy comes from."
This episode features Stef Jones, Founder of Onwards & Upwards. They are a charity that set up XO bikes, a company that trains ex-offenders to fix bikes and sell them.
In the episode, Nilesha and Stef discuss why he changed his path to set up a charity and his views on reform, redemption and rehabilitation.
