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I reached out to the incredible Aisea Laungaue, Partner and Chief  Strategy Officer at Anomaly LA. I read something he shared about always  getting to the same place in terms of the same types of leadership in  advertising agencies as a result of the same inputs for recruiting. His  unstated question: If we don't change the stimuli, how do we hope to  expect a different result?

I very much enjoyed this conversation,  and a chance to reflect on my own experience inside agencies and a part  of recruiting talent. I think you will too.

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Find Aisea on Twitter (that’s where I found him!) No transcript for this episode, the elves were busy. Transcripts should be back for the next one… reach out if you'd like one.

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