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Today we have Rob Cook from the "All Voices Heard" podcast and Dave Shine from the "Refreshment for the Soul" drop in and talk about poverty, race in America, and the simple truth behind moving forward as human beings.

Both men are mentors and guides to young men; this is a powerful episode where we share where we are and what we see. It is a bit different than many other podcasts; if you like it, please share.