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We are joined on the “rough couch” by Heather’s dancefloor girlfriend, Natasha Boyer. She shares her experience of growing up as an anxious kid in a strict Catholic home, finding goth by way of 80s clubs, and how the importance of getting out of her comfort zone led to becoming a gogo dancer. She speaks about parental growth and mending that relationship as a tattooed adult and non-believer, growing up keeping bugs as pets to becoming a vet-tech and full time cat lady, and how dancing in our subculture is a little bit like being a cat. Old club reminiscences come out, but it takes a turn for the religious, because Vesta can’t help it. Hey, is that stingray alive?