Goth, feminism, and comedy do coexist, and our guest Virginia Jones is living (and undead) proof. We talk about how refining her art allowed her to become more herself, having her own album title mansplained to her, and growing up as a Texas punk fascinated with California deathrock. We know that otherness unites goths and comedians, and the origins of both run deep; we learn about growing up Mormon, leaving the church after learning about its opposition to the Equal Rights Amendment as a teenager, and finding a new secular Church in Dallas. You can now find Virginia performing in Los Angeles and all over, so check out badinia.com for show dates, Badinia on tiktok, and her comedy album Gothic American anywhere you have already found this podcast.