This week, Karin is joined by Friend of the Pod Asha Subas to take a look at the politics and policy of immigration. Why does Trump think this is a winning issue for him when polls show Americans are mostly positive about immigrants? How can the Democratic candidates talk about this issue in a way that avoids polarising the country on it? What's actually in Julian Castro's and Beto O'Rourke's immigration plans? Also we play a version of the Gut Check game to check which candidate's July 4th barbecues we most want to attend.