Chantal shares the course her own bereavement, professional and spiritual journey and how this has informed the OMEGA course that she runs to equip everyday, well people to have conversations about death in their social circles. We note how, through our work roles, we are familiar with this territory and have built our communication skills, but sadly, many people avoid those with a life limiting diagnosis because they feel uncomfortable with the conversation. Stig talks about us ‘stepping forward, rather than stepping back’ and Chantal refers to this a ‘you can talk to me, I can take it’ - a containment or safe space. Chantel believes that we can all have conversations about death and grief. We ponder on the need for us to feel at ease with our own mortality if we hare to have these conversations without defence or fear. Death is within the context of a life; what has been lived, what is yet to live and conversations about mortality as inevitably also conversation about life.