Description

On this episode of INCOGNITO the podcast, Michael interviews Dr. Kimberly Narain! Dr. Narain completed her residency in Primary Care Internal Medicine at the University of California, San Francisco. Following fellowships at Harvard Medical School and UCLA, Dr. Narain served as a Specialty Training Advanced Research Fellow in the Department of General Internal Medicine & Health Services Research at UCLA, where she later earned a Ph.D. in Health Services from the UCLA Fielding School of Public Health, and is now an Assistant Professor In-Residence at the UCLA School of Medicine. In this conversation, Michael and Dr. Narain discuss the importance of creating work environments in which everyone can contribute, seeing yourself as in relationships of mutual benefit with others as opposed to in competition with them, and looking for the win-win in every situation. Dr. Narain shares what inspired her to write her new book, The Cycle of a Dream: A Kid’s Introduction to Structural Racism in America, and the many benefits of seeking out different perspectives and untold stories at all ages.

Key Takeaways:

• Everyone has something to contribute when under the right circumstances
• Practice humility; think of others first
• Don’t be wedded to the strategy, be wedded to the goal
• Stop seeing yourself in competition with others, remove hierarchy
• Ask: What’s missing, can I help?
• Appreciate people’s time
• Lead with self-reflection instead of blame
• Look for the win-win: setting aside oneself to serve others will ultimately benefit everyone
• Seek out different perspectives, look for untold stories
• Start small

Dr. Narain’s Media Recommendations:

• The Ezra Klein Show, “We Build Civilizations on Status. But We Barely Understand It.” (Podcast)

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Find Dr. Narain’s work

• Dr. Narain’s book: The Cycle of a Dream: A Kid’s Introduction to Structural Racism in America

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Thanks to Ned Doheny for providing our podcast music! You can find him and his music on Spotify.

Editing and co-production of this podcast by Nina Kissinger.

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