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Heather and Steph talk about motherhood, things that work and don't work with teens, with their usual candid and honest flair. On everything from Mario Kart and Monster drinks, to big failures and coming back from them. Steph shares more about being a mother to a transgender child/teen and what happened on the night she was told her daughter's truth. 

"I think it's time to lower my pain tolerance." - Stephanie Wilson

"Maybe this week feeling hard is a result of my being more mindful of that...of lowering my pain tolerance." - Stephanie 

"As a mom, I'm an over-seer of your life." - Stephanie to Luna

"The most important thing you can do when you're being human and making mistakes is to talk to someone about it. It's not really even about whether or not you did the thing, it's about whether or not you have held it inside, because that doesn't turn out so great." - Heather Westberg King 

"If you want them to keep coming to you and you want them to keep the communication open and you want to be aware of what they're actually doing, you can't freak out." - Stephanie 

"I want them to know my door is open and they can enter it and leave freely...without fear." - Steph

"I need to give them me, and not a version of me that I think I should be." - Steph

"The more I'm open and the more honest and vulnerable, the more open and honest they are with me." - Steph

"I am becoming all the time, I often change my mind about big and small things, about things I think and things I want to do. That used to really bother me, that I'm showing my kids I'm not even really sure of who I am or what I want to do and I'm just showing my kids how to flounder, or something. But now I'm like, no, I'm showing them how to live. This is how life is and we don't ever stop evolving and changing and growing." - Heather 

Steph shared a piece of writing from Kate Baer

“It’s never done. If I had a chance now with every book I wrote, every page would be a little different. Commas would be moved, words. And I think that’s beautiful, actually. That’s a good thing. It reminds us that the artist and the mind and the poem still grow. The poem is like a tree, and the book is a photograph of the tree. You take a photograph of the tree, but the next day, the tree has new cells. The next year, it has new branches. We have to make peace with the fact that a book is actually just a photo album, and that the organic psychic life of the poem is already growing somewhere else, somewhere inside you. And we pin it down."

#divorce #motherhood #parentingtranskids #katebaer #depression #anxiety