We often hear phrases in the writings of the Fathers and the Mothers of the Church or in the hymns about being the worst of sinners. Sometimes we have a hard time appropriating this to ourselves because it seems hypocritical or false, or even dangerously reinforcing an already present self-hatred and self-loathing. In this episode Fr John addresses this phrase and how we can understand it in a way that leads to true repentance, not merely self hatred, hypocrisy, or virtue signaling.