We will open up the podcast in 2023 by talking about Dr. Steven Greer and the CE5 or close encounters of the fifth kind initiative. Is it safe for human beings to initiate contact with extraterrestrial intelligences, or is this a dangerous venture that none of us should engage in? Dr. Greer tells us that we have been indoctrinated with propaganda and fear from the elitists and their Black ops programs! Is he right? And how does the Bible and the Urantia Book square with CE5 ideology? Let's have a conversation!
