On this episode of Work Utopia, the host invites a guest with over 20 years of recruiting experience to discuss the pros and cons of recruiting. With COVID causing major disruptions, the speaker emphasizes that abundancy is a mindset that can help job seekers find opportunities even in tough market conditions. The guest shares their experience managing karma while recruiting and provides insights into dealing with unexpected issues. They also discuss the importance of uncovering hidden information during the hiring process. The speaker believes that podcasting is a great way to showcase people's accomplishments and legacies, and intends to increase the frequency of their podcast episodes. They further share their perspective on achieving abundance, massive egos, and endless opportunities to learn.