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In this episode we have our first return guest, Shelly Snow Pordea.  Shelly talks about her new Children's book The Hug Who had No Arms.  This book is sooo powerful.  Not only for Coronavirus but for the protests and racism going on around the country.  We need to express love now more than ever!

If you missed the first Interview with Shelly check out episode #10.

You can check out the show notes at https://ordinarytobadass.com/the-hug/