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This episode is co-hosted by Pat O’Donnell (YoungWilliams) and Brandi Gallebo (Franklin County CSEA) and comes to you from Illinois, Ohio, and Arizona.  They welcome Doreen Nicholas, who is a Survivor Engagement and Systems Change Specialist at the Arizona Coalition to End Sexual and Domestic Violence.  Some of you may have heard Ms. Nicholas speak at the 2022 NCSEA Policy Forum in Washington DC.  Today they discuss the importance of neutrality in child support program service delivery, particularly how that impacts domestic and sexual violence survivors.  Hear about Ms. Nicholas’ career journey; and the Arizona Coalition’s mission of intervention, ending domestic and sexual violence, as well as promoting equity among all people – and how this intersects with the child support program.