This episode comes to you from Pleasanton, California; Concord, North Carolina; Raleigh, North Carolina; and Anchorage, Alaska. Tim Lightner (Alaska CSSD) hosts a conversation with the co-chairs of the 2022 Leadership Symposium: Phyllis Nance (Director, Alameda County DCSS), Linda Rhyne-McKinley (Quality and Training Supervisor, Mecklenburg County CSE) and Carla West (Sr. Director of Economic Security/State IV-D Director, NC DHHS, Div. of Social Services). Listen as they talk about how they got involved in the child support program, and with NCSEA. Hear them discuss this year’s Leadership Symposium – the planning, the location, the plenaries, and workshops –and this year’s theme of “Level-Up: Transforming Tomorrow’s Leaders.”