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In this discussion, Stephen and I explore some of the early evidence of a possible “Charlie Kirk effect” on the growth of Christianity in America and discuss the upsides and downsides of using statistical data to try to understand what’s happening in American Christianity in the wake of Kirk’s death.

From the broad social implications of Kirk’s work and assassination, Stephen and I pivot to discussing how a society should remember public figures after they’ve died and what the shape and tone of that discussion says about the relative health of our body politic.

We close the conversation on the virtues of courage and friendship and how Charlie Kirk provides an excellent example of those virtues in action.


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